What do they want?

[fuzzynecromancer]

This is a topic that came to my mind while looking at the other shipping threads. There's a lot of talk about similiarities between characters, contrasts, what they could do together, why they might get on each other's nerves, etc.

People tend to think of pairings as fixed truths, concepts, permanences.

I don't. Just because Character A x Character B works as a pairing, that doesn't mean that Character A x Character C doesn't work. People make up, break up, and move on all the time.

So, what I'm wondering about the MvA characters is, what do they want out of a relationship? What do they hope to gain? What are they looking for in a partner? Short-term fun or raising a family? Do they want to shop around and date? Do they want somebody who is outgoing, or somebody introverted? Are they seeking emotional supportiveness, good looks, excitement and hang out, or all of the above?

Missing Link seems to be flirtatious, but I can't help wondering if mammal women are really attractive to him. There's a lot we don't know about his reproductive system. Many species of fish and amphibians spawn, directly releasing their sperm and eggs into the water without necessarily making physical contact, so the concept of casual sex may be nonsensical to him.

Susan just came out of a bad relationship. She was going to get married. She was going to settle into a life role. Because of how unpleasant that relationship turned out to be though, we have to ask if this was what she really wanted? How much of the married life was the expectations of other people railroading her? If she gets a new relationship, will she be looking for something intimate, or does she want something casual and non-threatening, or even just a simple fling?

What BOB wants in a relationship is somebody who can listen and has several chunks of pineapple.

What Katie wants in a relationship is somebody athletic and good-looking who's up for making out in the car.


Any hypothesizing? =o

[RAWRrhi]

Well i know that all Susan wants is to get married, although she was about to marry the wrong guy
The relationship that she had with Derek was annoyingly unhealthy.
She needs some one who's sweet, and not too into himself and who's open to marriage

Derek was an asshole and dumped Susan because she was in his 'spotlight'
That scene would have to be my least favorite in the whole film - the look on her face just broke my heart

But anyway staying on topic..lol

[Mansion]

Well i know that all Susan wants is to get married, although she was about to marry the wrong guy
The relationship that she had with Derek was annoyingly unhealthy.
She needs some one who's sweet, and not too into himself and who's open to marriage.

I'll agree that all SUSAN wanted was to get married and settle down, but I don't think that's nessacarily on the plate for Ginormica, who's discovered that she can do things things on her own ("I took down a robot! That was all me!"). Basically, she gets to live for herself now and do what was previously unthinkable for her.

I'm thinking she's going to need some serious healing time after Derek. In the movie, it was quick and satisfying for her to kick him to the curb in a mighty blaze of girl power, but afterwards, she's going to need some time to adjust to having someone effect her life that intensely and in an ultimately negative way.

I don't think it's going to traumatize her overmuch... She's brimming with self-confidence now, and I think she'll learn from her mistakes and never repeat them. Her new priorities for a romantic involvement would be something along the line of supportiveness, total acceptance of her choice to remain a giantess, equal shares in whatever they do together (i.e., actual partnership), and someone that she genuinely likes. I don't think appearances are a big deal to her anymore. XD

Anyway, I have a counterpoint about your amphibious biology argument, fuzzy... Link has a belly-button. Which implies the fish-ape race bears live young. Which, to me, makes me want to err more on the side of ape rather than fish as to mating habits.

As for finding mammal women attractive... All signs seem to point to yes. Human males can find anthro women attractive. Doesn't seem like a huge stretch.

Anyway, I noticed you left Cockroach out. Then I realized why.

What the heck DOES he want in a relationship? O.o It's really hard to tell. The only woman he interacts with is Susan, and their relationship is almost completely platonic and familial, so there's nothing at all to judge from.

Science is always going to be his mistress, first and foremost. That's just the way it is. Anything else on the romantic front has to work around that.

[RAWRrhi]

Yep i agree, i think she'll always want to get married - but not at this stage, she was burned pretty bad because of Derek.

I like the whole Dr.C/Susan pairing but honestly i like their relationship as it is - platonic
But i agree that she won't be much into appearances anymore.

Ginormica has new-found self confidence which is all she really needs to heal from her previous relationship, and that's yet another reason why she probably wouldn't want to get into a serious relationship let alone get married anytime soon.

So yes i agree with you 100% lol

[Blackboxx]

Drawing attention away from Ginormica for a moment:

Link is kind of surprising if you ask me. He puts on a macho front, but he has no trouble getting emotional. Just look at his reactions to Insecto when she gets shot, when she rescues them from the exploding mothership, etc. He cries in front of his buddies, and gives a heartfelt embrace. I think he would be willing to settle down once he finds the right being (human, monster, ape, fish, whatever).

[Mansion]

You make a good point, blackboxx.

Link's really far more interesting than the other characters when you sit down to analyse him. He's the last of his kind, but he's pretty well adjusted. He's not opposed to bodily carting a girl off the beach, but he's the first to offer emotional support. He's gung-ho and a braggart, but he's not a loose cannon and works well with his team.

Dammit, why doesn't he get more love?!

But, yes, I believe he's emotionally mature enough to settle down if he found the right being. Which isn't to say he wouldn't look every now and then, but it wouldn't be some kind of huge hinderance to a relationship.

For instance, my brother flirts with anything that moves, but when he's been in relationships, he's always been serious and monogamous in terms of actual behavior. It's not like it's some big mutally exclusive thing.

[Blackboxx]

Dammit, why doesn't he get more love?!

I think it has to do with the fact that he's a fish-ape. Two things that generally have a reputation for being disgusting and smelly. I don't care. Fish is delicious, and Will Arnett is a master of the piggish dude who acts before he thinks. Put two and two together, and you get the awesomeness that is the Missing Link. He is is by far my favorite of the supporting cast (Ginormica, being the main, gets the honor of fave).

[Mansion]

It's probably the lack of the British accent. *rolls eyes* But, yeah, I like Will. He does good work.

Link's definitely one of my top three favorite characters. It's always wheeling between him and Cockroach and Gallaxhar. (I can't explain it...) It's fun to have a character who's forward and snarky and awesome... and best friends with a butterfly.

Actually, I pretty much love everything about him. I wouldn't mind getting yanked off the beach by him much at all... XDD

Sorry, creepy fangirling over.

[fuzzynecromancer]

I'm not sure that Ginormica wants to get married either. She's got a different life now, and new possibilities are opened up to her.

Even if she is interested in marriage, I think she'd want to explore the possibilities for a while and shop around. After narrowly averting one bad relationship with a seemingly "ideal" choice, she's going to peruse her options for longer.


So, anybody have a theory on what Dr. Cockroach wants? =o

[Twitter Cordova]

May 31, 2009 0:35:52 GMT -5 fuzzynecromancer said:

So, anybody have a theory on what Dr. Cockroach wants? =o

I never saw Dr. Cockroach was the marrying urge kind of man before in his time before becoming a monster. As mention, he is kinda married to his work but I know past hidden from that, he would want somebody real to love forever. Lots of people that are into science can't get the chance to stand up and declaim their prize and I'm talking about the women they might have a crush on it. Science people? Totally overall geeks. But I'm not calling him that. He's too smart and well....too good to be called a geek or a nerd.

[fuzzynecromancer]

I'm not quite clear on exactly what you're saying about his desires. Also, you don't need to be the marrying type to want a relationship.

[Twitter Cordova]

Yeah....I guess that would be it. Sorry if I'm not making that sound clear to you, it's just....hard for me to explain anything on one character from an animated movie because there's not a lot of detail to know all there is unless you can figure out about their personality and past. But no you're right. You don't really have to be the marrying kind to keep a realtionship or want one. Lots of people have been dating longer than 10 years and they don't ever get married.

If Dr. Cockroach did wanted to date Susan, I wouldn't know if he would want to surely married Susan. There's been too many fanfics out there that have that. Which is the longing to be together forever and stuff.

[Nobility]

Yeah. The funny thing about monster romance is, regardless of whether or not the characters would ever confess their feelings for one another, they're ALREADY going to be together for the rest of the lives. I mean, it's not like they have anyone else to turn to- Ginormica can't really live with her parents anymore, B.O.B. and Link no longer have a real home, and Cockroach... well, I suppose he could return to his labs and continue his scientific career, now that he's a hero and all.

As for what Cockroach might want out of marriage- well, probably someone who would share his love of science. As much as he cares for his monster friends, I imagine it must be fairly frustrating to be surrounded by a group of friends who could care less about your interests. I don't think he's the type of guy to actively pursue a relationship, but if he'd ever meet a nice young woman who enjoyed inventing as much as he did, wasn't repulsed by his appearance, and maybe help him in the lab... well, let's just say I don't think he would be so opposed to the idea of a romantic relationship.