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Post by Baycrum on Sept 10, 2009 15:22:18 GMT -5
I thought that Kung Fu Panda was really cool but too short after it was over I said:THATS IT!?
But it was good movie.
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Post by Nobility on Sept 11, 2009 13:05:09 GMT -5
I admit, I'm starting to develop a love/hate relationship with Dreamworks. I love, love, LOVE some of their movies, but then I learn more about how they actually operate and what they do to successful franchises and I start to loose faith. I will never hate on the company that brought me Monsters vs. Aliens, of course, but still... I'm not as big a fan of their work as I was a little while ago.
So, as a compromise, I'm going to go ahead and blame Kahtzenberg for all the cruddy decisions being made, just like everyone blamed Eisner for the cruddy decisions at Disney. So hopefully, when Kahtzenberg retires (In 2014, I think I read somewhere), maybe they'll get someone more competent in charge and less "hey! Kung Fu Panda did well. Let's make SIX MORE MOVIES!" Because I'm not opposed to sequels, but I AM opposed to six more and turning it into a franchise that will get stale very fast.
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Post by Baycrum on Sept 11, 2009 14:03:30 GMT -5
Well didn't he decide to make a MvA Tv series?
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Post by Aurum on Sept 11, 2009 18:50:16 GMT -5
^I'm not sure on that. It could have been Nick, it could have been him.
Yeah, I was like, WTF? When they announced about five or six sequels to Kung Fu Panda less than a month after it was released. But at least Katzenberg is a bit better than Eisner, aka Mr. "Hey! Let's give our feature films direct-to-video quality animation! Most people can't tell the difference anyway!"
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Post by Nobility on Sept 11, 2009 21:56:55 GMT -5
Well didn't he decide to make a MvA Tv series? I said I was going to blame him for all the cruddy decisions. I'll give him his due for some good decisions.  Like I said, it's a love-hate relationship. ^I'm not sure on that. It could have been Nick, it could have been him. Yeah, I was like, WTF? When they announced about five or six sequels to Kung Fu Panda less than a month after it was released. But at least Katzenberg is a bit better than Eisner, aka Mr. "Hey! Let's give our feature films direct-to-video quality animation! Most people can't tell the difference anyway!" To be fair, there were SOME good movies that did come out of those cheapquels (Lion King II, Lion King 1/2, Little Mermaid 3, and Cinderella III were all worthy predecessors to their films I felt). Though I agree with you and the direct-to-DVD quality, at least with Dreamworks sequels you get the feeling their TRYING. |
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Post by Aurum on Sept 14, 2009 1:52:27 GMT -5
Not to mention they are an independent studio, so they have a lot more to lose if a feature bombs, which is probably why they tend to grip onto good ideas longer than they probably should.
But we've also got to give people like them credit. Without Eisner and Katzenberg (though more Katzenberg) as some influencial drives for Disney's films (Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, etc.), Disney would have been bought and sold in pieces a long time ago. (Hard to believe now, as they've since risen to the point where they can buy Marvel.)
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Post by Baycrum on Sept 14, 2009 4:48:21 GMT -5
DISNEY SELLING WTF??My aunt said they've be like this since the 50's.I think we're getting offtopic though....
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Post by Aurum on Sept 14, 2009 16:30:07 GMT -5
They did decline in the 60s through the 80s. (aka the television "limited" animation ghetto) It wasn't until Roger Rabbit and The Little Mermaid was made that they were back on top again.
We're still discussing Katzenberg, technically. ;)
Irony trivia of the day: Katzenberg was a big influence in getting Disney to have a distribution deal with Pixar in the first place.
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Post by Nobility on Sept 14, 2009 18:05:34 GMT -5
I've always wondered about Pixar and Dreamwork's relationship. I know both of their studios are close to each other, like, on opposite sides of the lots, I think. I have to wonder, do most Dreamworks employess resent Pixar and vice versa, or are they friendly with each other and only rivals in business? Do they each other's movies, etc.?
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Post by Aurum on Sept 14, 2009 21:38:27 GMT -5
I've heard the studios aren't as sour as some fans can get. Obviously Katzenberg liked Pixar, or he wouldn't've signed a distribution deal. I've heard he still respects them as a studio.
According to JimHillMedia.com, John Lasseter thinks Katzenberg ripped off Bug's Life, and told Jerry Seinfeld this. Seinfeld got mad enough to put a caricature of Lasseter in Bee Movie (The article said something about when the woman and the bee were trying to land a plane, he appears.). So there are some moments of fairly bitter rivalry, but I'm sure the studios don't gather during lunch to shout at each other or anything. Haha.
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Post by Aurum on Sept 19, 2009 4:37:05 GMT -5
Update:
I dunno. I randomly came across the How To Train Your Dragon teaser trailer.
It's in HD, in case you wanted to watch it that way on YouTube. :)
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Post by Baycrum on Sept 19, 2009 12:04:11 GMT -5
Cool!!
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Post by Twitter Cordova on Sept 19, 2009 21:11:20 GMT -5
They got a teaser trailer for How to Train Your Dragon up so soon? YAYS! Ooh that black dragon looks scary. COOL!
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Post by Nobility on Sept 19, 2009 23:31:55 GMT -5
Hunh. Interesting. It almost looks like this is going to be one of their more serious movies, like Kung Fu Panda. Not that that's a problem.
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Post by Baycrum on Sept 20, 2009 1:14:40 GMT -5
Yeah thats true.
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Like I said, it's a love-hate relationship.
