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Post by Twitter Cordova on May 10, 2009 14:24:17 GMT -5
Oh I wasn't so sure because I know they cut the scenes really fast. In my views, I notice he cover his ears before the ship was counting down on the last number, so to me I don't believe he made it out on time. And the computer did said that maybe she miscounted wrong before BOOM! No more aliens and ship. ^^
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Post by Mansion on May 10, 2009 14:35:57 GMT -5
Oh yeah, forgot #5. Continuous storyline!!! The best shows feature a long, well thought out story that makes room for character growth. I can't stand shows where everything ends at square-1. (ex: the heroes find a great treasure, but must sacrifice it in order to escape the temple, ending the characters in the exact same state as they started the episode). I want backstory! I want revelations! I want plot twists! Anyone here watch Avatar: The Last Airbender? That was what I mean. There were some parts that really had nothing to do with the overall story, but in general, nothing made sense unless you watch from the beginning. The characters change, get stronger, learn new skills, solve personal problems, and start to get along much better by the end. It was good because it was planned that way. There was a clear beginning, with a goal for the ending: 3 seasons, 60 episodes, plot twists here, here, and here. I would like to see some overall arcing, but... In all honesty, does the concept have room for it? It's begging to be a baddie of the week show, not a huge, personal, emotionally wrought show like Avatar. In terms of character development... I'm gonna throw out an example here, and feel free to mock me if you want: Kim Possible. Every week, there was the major villain plot from a cast of a handful of recurring villains and a few one-shotters with a subplot pertaining to "real life" that thematically tied in so things could reach a decent end every time, but overall, there was a lot of strong, positive character development that arced through a bunch of episodes. And okay, there was romantic development and that's probably not the wisest choice for MvA (hush, fangirls! I'm making a point here!), but I'd like to see an MvA series treated like that... With weekly self-contained plots AND gradual growth in the characters. |
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Post by Mansion on May 10, 2009 14:39:11 GMT -5
Actually Twitter, I think a lot of this "Gallaxhar could've survived" is hope-against-hope on the part of Gallxhar fans. It was probably intended to imply that he died, but the great thing about villains is that even when it looks like they're dead, they sometimes come back and surprise you. We keep bringing up the escape pod because it's the closest way to probable we can come up with.
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Post by Nobility on May 10, 2009 14:45:33 GMT -5
Exactly. The rule of fiction is that unless you find a corpse, nobody dies- sometimes even if you DO find a corpse. (Time travel, alternate dimensions, magic wishes, etc. etc.)
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Post by Blackboxx on May 10, 2009 18:06:32 GMT -5
I don't think I was too clear what I meant. The whole treasure hunting thing was just an example, not a suggestion. It's a weekly plot device used for many shows. It's just meant to illustrate that nothing changed with the characters at the end of the episode. They finished their adventure, but nothing is different (no treasure, which would make one heck of an adventure with one huge payoff). The next episode can be about anything, which will also end up not making any difference.
Not that this type of free-viewing (no episode order required to enjoy and understand) is bad, I just prefer fully fleshed-out story arcs.
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Post by Mansion on May 10, 2009 19:29:34 GMT -5
I think most of us understood that the treasure hunt was just an example.
You don't often see that kind of storytelling in American cartoons, for better or worse. They're marketed for kiddies to plunk themselves down in front of the set and watch for a half an hour and repeat the cycle the next day. Sometimes, occasionally, you get a series that pull off big arcs in mostly standalone episodes... Like Teen Titans, for example.
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Post by Blackboxx on May 10, 2009 22:09:18 GMT -5
I have no idea how I missed this post. That kind of situation would be fine with me. I would just hate to see all the development from the movie come to a screeching halt just so an easy, cheap, mindless TV show can be made with the namesake. Gradual growth is fine because it's more realistic.
I'm not asking for anything dramatic like Avatar, just something to follow. Some insight on who the monsters are, who they knew before getting caught, how they were actually caught, etc.
Even if Gallaxhar doesn't return, a new villain would be cool too.
Bah! Look at me, settign standards for a TV show based on a movie that's still in theaters... One day at a time, boy. One day at a time...
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Post by Mansion on May 10, 2009 23:24:12 GMT -5
I'm not asking for anything dramatic like Avatar, just something to follow. Some insight on who the monsters are, who they knew before getting caught, how they were actually caught, etc. Even if Gallaxhar doesn't return, a new villain would be cool too. Bah! Look at me, settign standards for a TV show based on a movie that's still in theaters... One day at a time, boy. One day at a time... OOOH, thank you for bringing up the awesome point of PROPER ORIGIN STORIES! Not that "M" Files crap that blatently contradicts the offical dates and chronology itself. I think there should be a couple of villains, regardless. One single villain gets stale. They should totally use the unused concept of a monster-hunter. That would be cool. And at least one original alien villian instead of or addition to Gallaxhar. I mean, quantonium IS the most powerful stuff on in the galaxy. Surely other beings are after it. We're all setting standards here. Let's hope against hope that someone in the process is gauging fan reations. |
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Post by RF on May 10, 2009 23:56:07 GMT -5
I'm actually leaning more towards no for a possible tv show and a sequal in general...mostly because I'm afraid that neither will turn out to be as great as the original movie is.
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Post by Aurum on May 11, 2009 0:14:21 GMT -5
I would like to see some overall arcing, but... In all honesty, does the concept have room for it? It's begging to be a baddie of the week show, not a huge, personal, emotionally wrought show like Avatar. In terms of character development... I'm gonna throw out an example here, and feel free to mock me if you want: Kim Possible. Every week, there was the major villain plot from a cast of a handful of recurring villains and a few one-shotters with a subplot pertaining to "real life" that thematically tied in so things could reach a decent end every time, but overall, there was a lot of strong, positive character development that arced through a bunch of episodes. And okay, there was romantic development and that's probably not the wisest choice for MvA (hush, fangirls! I'm making a point here!), but I'd like to see an MvA series treated like that... With weekly self-contained plots AND gradual growth in the characters. I agree! I would love to see a series of new villains. More aliens might be a possibility. If they want to go for more 1950s baddies, they could include zombies, vampires, and werewolves. Though they really only make for Halloween episodes. More humans can be possibly introduced as bad guys. And maybe even some new monsters. I that Gallaxhar might possibly come back as the series' main bad guy. But I don't think Dreamworks would have a problem of doing a new main villain. I know I already said this, but I would love to see a monster that is able to elude the government and prevent from being caught. Maybe something of an anti-hero. Sometimes that monster helps them, sometimes it's the villain. That would be awesome. |
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Post by Blackboxx on May 12, 2009 8:30:10 GMT -5
A team of baddies, or even a random assortment that have nothing to do with each other is a good idea. I only hope they have some depth, unlike most Saturday morning villains.
Almost forgot about the monster hunter. though, if he/she were to be a villain, they probably have to be the younger model.
Oh! And they can re-indtroduce Tip Sommers! A quirky little Richard Simmons tpye guy trying to help the monsters boost ttheir self-esteem while society is hesitant to embrace them.
That would be a perfect way to get their backstories! Through therapy sessions!
Tip: "Tell me about yourself. What did you do before you became a monster?"
B.O.B.: "Monster? Where?!"
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Post by Crazyrabidpony on May 15, 2009 23:09:40 GMT -5
It would also be pretty cool if they brought in actual fabled monsters like the Jersey Devil, the Mantauk Monster, El Chupacabra, ect. But not too scary, don't wanna frightenen the children... and B.O.B. XD
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Post by Mansion on May 16, 2009 13:50:49 GMT -5
*gasp!*
YESH! There needs to be a chupacabra! That made me grin like a maniac!
Ooh, and the legendary Mothman. (God, what a great monster... Part moth, part man, all mysterious!)
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Post by Crazyrabidpony on May 16, 2009 14:40:09 GMT -5
Yes! El Chupacabra, small, agile, reptillian, a bloodsucker! Muahahaha!
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Post by Blackboxx on May 16, 2009 19:14:24 GMT -5
What? No love for Nessie? Link has to have some sort of rival sea creature. I'd just love to see the monsters go to Scotland. Bagpipes o'plenty!
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